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And I meant in every RP that had good character design Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 142249227

Some RP did have misguided characters, but they happens to be misguided because of the controller themselves are misguided Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

Trust me... such characters tends to be really "bad" characters Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

Not "evil bad", but "bad" because of the design and yeah Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876
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Lol, I believe it.

I don't think genuinely bad characters are necessarily poorly designed (although they often are). It depends on how you handle them. For example, I think the evil and deranged Bellatrix Lestrange is a good antagonist, but the completely evil Voldemort is dull. I think henchman can fill that function better than the central antagonist because we want our main villain to be fleshed out and complex.

Even then, though, it's a fine line.

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Well, Voldemort could have been a "good" villain... I think how he ended his life made him really "meh" villain....
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Not a big fan of harry potter series.... the series were good in some books and bad in other. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522
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.......And I really did not enjoy twilight (I was forced to read it cause some 'English' teacher wanted me to read it for the project) Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 926905690
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Voldemort didn't engage me because he was basically hopeless from the start. He was clearly born a psychopath and never had a chance at being anything else. It is an interesting study to see how he was able to manipulate and control others in the past with his handsomeness and carefully crafted charm. But by the time he became a cackling evil snake man, I struggle to see how he could persuade anyone to follow him.

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Well, the thing with Voldemort, it seems he is the only guy you could actually see how he was misguided and how he could also have turned back, if you had to go through certain situation similar as him Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

And his story had many gaps that needs to be told, which allowed the readers to make him as like a meh villain, or one of a great villain of all times...(Well, ending of his villainy did not allow me to make him as a great villain and I think this was intentional by author, IMHO Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876 )

I mean, look at Trump, with his hate speech he was able to gain supporters in U.S.A Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

A real example right there Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 142249227
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That being said.... Is he going to be impeached? Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 4134108735

I am sorry, but I think he is like a dictator in NK Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

The difference between him and NK's dictator is that Trump is in the country where People still matters and NK dictator is in a country that mutes people.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522
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If Trump were a dictator, the media wouldn't have the freedom to attack him the way they do. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876 I don't like the guy personally, but people are blowing things way out of proportion. I have family in Venezuela, and they're living in poverty and fear. That's what a real dictator does. I'd love to ship the people complaining about Trump's "dictatorship" down to Venezuela for a week and see how they kiss the soil here when - or if - they made it back.

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Well, sure, let him bully others because he is USA president and whatever he does as long as its profitable for USA is forgivable Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

I am not really sure if you are aware, but South Korea is going through hell thanks to his "contribution" Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 746295744

Comparing him to dictator? sure it is overboard, but I do think he had made some decisions solely based on who is following him and who is going against him Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

I mean like. for instance. a system you are not even planning to give it to other country and asking them to pay them full.... what kind of deal is that? And to make matter worse, angering the neighbors and not coming up with how to deal with that.... and you let the small guy be the meat shield....

Sure, country should take care of its people, but when did we justify a country being bully to its allies? (wait! was there a case like that before?? I bet there was!)

Especially an ally that always had been standing up for U.S.A? Even though, many times, USA did not support the just cause of that country because its power is falling...? (Sure, let's give Japan power to "invade" other country again and help them to take land that is not theirs, and why not support them in favor of their wrong doings? I don't know, like 'comfort woman'??)

I mean it's okay, that country is weak, so what gives? Am I right? Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

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So sorry.... I am drunk in emotion today.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 621929346
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whatever criticism you have on me right now is justified, I hope I wasn't being too offensive.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 621929346

I get too emotional with politics these days.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 621929346
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Making poor decisions doesn't make you a dictator. No, he hasn't made great decisions on certain issues, but it's hardly the crisis people are making it out to be. By all means criticize - no official should be beyond the scrutiny of the people - but there is a line between valid criticism and incessant whining, and a lot of people have crossed that line a while ago. I was against Trump's nomination as much as Hillary's, and definitely wasn't rejoicing at his election, but I'm starting to become numb to the constant barrage of Trump-hate. Please, people, give it a rest and find a new hobby. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876

I'm not mad at you personally or anything. No worries.

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Well I thought the people should give him a chance..... At least.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 621929346

I don't think he is using his chance really well though.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

Nah, I am not hating on Trump on everything, but I really wish he leave some countries alone for awhile Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 142249227

Doubt he will though Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2001369995
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Unfortunately, I still believe in staying informed on current events as much as possible, but I try to avoid any conversation on it. It just makes me irritated with everyone on the planet. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876

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Trust me, I think I had my irritation with whole planet when people asked me about why certain president is being impeached Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876

In any case, I will try to stay in touch as possible Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 4134108735

And I stand by how Trump makes a good case study of how Voldemort gain his followers Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2733086858
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In a sense, yes. In both cases, they point out an "other" to society as a source of problems. But to leave it at that is far too simplistic. Yes, I'm sure his core loyal enthusiasts are like that, but I think the majority of his voters sinply saw him as the lesser of two evils and someone willing to address issues without sugar-coating them. And we definitely do have issues that need addressing. His solutions may not be the best or even good, but at least it's trying to deal with the problem instead of pretending it doesn't exist. And that pretending and business as usual frustrates a lot of people.

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Oh, I agree Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3680231627

That's why I thought he deserves a chance as well Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 142249227

The problem lies with "how" he was trying to deal with it though Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

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Agreed. And unfortunately, instead of constructively trying to come together for solutions, all anyone does is sling mud at each other. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

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Oh, I know..... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

Imagine my surprise when the political party that produced impeached president decided to go against the new government... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2001369995



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To be fair, I think it happens all the time in every politics Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522
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It doesn't happen to 'dictator' orientated politics though...... Which is really sad cause that means depending on the dictator, the country men, women and children will suffer or be somewhat livable... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522
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Well, I can tell you they're suffering in Venezuela under Maduro. I don't get why the United Nations doesn't do something. Isn't that why they exist?

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Hey, are you still putting faith in that organization? Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 3769223626

I lost faith in them when they elected Ban (a SK politician who is known as slippery eel and was really surprised that he became UN representative.... now he is gone so let's see how it goes.....) Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

More Importantly, no big power countries are addressing this problem properly which is making me angry! Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 926905690

That being said, mark my words, unless people in Venezuela rise against their dictator, this "powerless" organization is not going to move a inch....  Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522
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They should really rename the organization to "Debating Club" for what they are doing these days. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2001369995

Yes they did some good jobs in the past, but what matters is what you do now as organization Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2416964522

And I dare say, what they are doing right now, I do not see any hope in them. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 926905690

I have hope in people who are risking their lives to do good for people though Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 4134108735

I just hope such intentions are not misguided.... I saw such intentions being misguided and end up being used for unreasonable terrorists goal.... Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 621929346

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Oh, no, I've always believed they were completely useless. I'm just lamenting the sad truth. Genesis Crisis: Resurgence OOC V - Page 31 2332200876

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