Chat Thread 16: Once Upon a Chat

Oh trust me, my heart is well prepared for it

I read a chapter that made my mental broke and they killed one of my favorite character in one pic, chopping him into several pieces.... And he had survived 20 chapters so i thought he would be....oh well reoccurring character..... But no, he dies..... He went through all the **** that world gives him and he dies in one picture....

Geez, what is this thing you're reading anyway?

I don't think it has proper translations yet, so can't give you exact name... But yeah... It's sci-fic genre story

Sounds terrible.

Its terrible

I won't recommend it to someone who wants only goodies, and doesn't want to read really hopeless situation... Who has actual heart disease...

Its really for people who could recover from it and who can take the big upset

Why do you even read this? Game of Thrones is bleak, but it has a point to it and tells a very gripping story. This just sounds depressing and awful for the sake of being depressing and awful.

The main character of Berserk was given birth to by a hanged corpse
That about sets the mood for what the rest of the ****-storm is

:|


I'll leave the rest to Jorg or Maddy because
\**** I'm lazy

....how could a hanged corpse give birth? >.>

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Why do you even read this? Game of Thrones is bleak, but it has a point to it and tells a very gripping story. This just sounds depressing and awful for the sake of being depressing and awful.

That's what i thought, but there's hope... Kind of hope... So i got to see it through the end

Uh huh. Your hopeless optimism at work, I see.

I guess so

So definitely GoT is no challenge

We'll see~

Prisma*Illya wrote:

I doubt that.

this is what I hate about GoT fans, they have no idea of how light GoT actually is. GoT is lighter than 90% of european myths. MYTHS, shorts stories from centuries ago.

Berserk makes European Myths look like disney fairy tales.

basicaly Berserk is mediavel europe where all it's myths are true. So basicaly remove all the knights in shinning armor, remove all the heroes and good people. People in there are killed, eaten, raped or all at the same time on a daily basis. One of it's lightest arc is showing it's version of the old vatican(aka witch hunting and turture of the pagans) and that was darker than whatever GoT has. BY MILES.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

....how could a hanged corpse give birth? >.>

they hanged a woman that was near labor, by being hanged the baby just kinda poped out~(not realistic but definatily something an european myth would have)

MIND YOU, I am not saying GoT is bad or that it's a kid's show. What I'm saying is that it's not that dark as a story in comparison. It's realistic which means it's both dark and light, it has it's dark moments and then it has it's light moments.

The only reason it got popular is because for a TV series yes it was darker than anything else. But for example, in the world of books it's just another story, a good one but not one people read because "it's a dark story." People read GoT for the same reason people read LoTR, because it's an original complex world based on old european history and myths.

btw GoT is based on the War of Roses, so yeah, it's not even dark in comparison to history in europe

oh.... it's based on 'War of Roses'? .......

Hmmmm.... Okay

jorgiguel wrote:

Prisma*Illya wrote:

I doubt that.

this is what I hate about GoT fans, they have no idea of how light GoT actually is. GoT is lighter than 90% of european myths. MYTHS, shorts stories from centuries ago.

Berserk makes European Myths look like disney fairy tales.

basicaly Berserk is mediavel europe where all it's myths are true. So basicaly remove all the knights in shinning armor, remove all the heroes and good people. People in there are killed, eaten, raped or all at the same time on a daily basis. One of it's lightest arc is showing it's version of the old vatican(aka witch hunting and turture of the pagans) and that was darker than whatever GoT has. BY MILES.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

....how could a hanged corpse give birth? >.>

they hanged a woman that was near labor, by being hanged the baby just kinda poped out~(not realistic but definatily something an european myth would have)

Jorg, how far in Game of Thrones did you actually get? Cause it has people being killed, eaten, raped, tortured, and burned alive as sacrifices. So...

'Don't be popping a boner on top of my head!'


-Gutts

Prisma*Illya wrote:

jorgiguel wrote:

Prisma*Illya wrote:

I doubt that.

this is what I hate about GoT fans, they have no idea of how light GoT actually is. GoT is lighter than 90% of european myths. MYTHS, shorts stories from centuries ago.

Berserk makes European Myths look like disney fairy tales.

basicaly Berserk is mediavel europe where all it's myths are true. So basicaly remove all the knights in shinning armor, remove all the heroes and good people. People in there are killed, eaten, raped or all at the same time on a daily basis. One of it's lightest arc is showing it's version of the old vatican(aka witch hunting and turture of the pagans) and that was darker than whatever GoT has. BY MILES.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

....how could a hanged corpse give birth? >.>

they hanged a woman that was near labor, by being hanged the baby just kinda poped out~(not realistic but definatily something an european myth would have)

Jorg, how far in Game of Thrones did you actually get? Cause it has people being killed, eaten, raped, tortured, and burned alive as sacrifices. So...

illya the differance is that Game of Thrones is ABOUT a good story that HAS dark elements.

Berserk story is ABOUT dark elements that HAS a good story


i mean seriously all thoese elements you talked about FSN has them too, does that mean it's as dark as GoT? no! Just having these elements aren't enough, it's how you use them.

also it's funny that you bring the "have you watched it?" card when you yourself havent done so with Berserk. If you actually knew Berserk you wouldn't even be questioning it on being darker. I still remember the time where you were horrified over the brutality over a big ass caving an idiot's face in. Guess what, that's a normal thing in Berserk, it's probably the less painful way to die in Berserk.

Which totally didn't answer my question.

Also, I never said Berserk wasn't brutal. I can't say without knowing more about it. Unlike you.

A big difference you don't take into account is that one is drawings. The other is actual people. That's always going to be worse, even when they're depicting the same thing.

And drawings can depict way more darker things and get away with it

actualy illya it's the other way around


real people means that most of the gore is very bland since they still can't make good CG without it looking off.

most of berserk? i can't even post pics of it cause the gore is unrestricted

Yes, but there's more detachment because there's less similarity between you and a drawing compared to you and a living being. For instance, Sakura's abuse in FSN is technically worse, and I did feel very bad about it, but the rape of a certain character in GoT a few episodes ago felt way worse because I was seeing it happen to a real person. In fact, the fairly discreet way they handled it almost made it worse.

Also, I'm pretty sure you've never seen past season 1,if that.

the reason it felt horrible is because it shouldn't have happened. The reason people who read the books are mad over it, is because not only should it not have happened, it actually changed certain characters personalities by doing it




i mean seriously, does GoT have a kid being strangled by the entestines of another kid?

or women(and children) being raped by trolls, only to have the troll babies burst from the belly eat the mother and then proceed to **** other captives?

or kids getting eaten by swarm of little faries

or a bunch of trolls killing a man and then rape the sister right next to the corpse

and these things aren't even bad by Berserk standards.


also I know this will make me sound like an asshole, but it really saddens me when I say "One of it's lightest arc is showing it's version of the old vatican" and you still think it's nothing special. I know you barely had any of it there in America, so let me put it in context.

If you think that the holocaust was bad, you have no idea how bad the Church was when it was doing it's witch hunts.

There's a reason why most of Europe is becoming less and less religious.

See, again, GoT is horrifying because its brutality is realistic. That stuff just sounds gratuitous for shock value, which I find more stupid than anything else.

I know all about the Inquisition. Not only that, but the "counter Inquisition" done against suspected Catholics in Protestant countries. The accounts are terrible to read, but just throwing out the name doesn't make me tremble.