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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:07 pm

Huh?

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:19 pm

im probably just a bit ahead of myself, but Nasuverse espers find using their powers to be normal.

also in KnK theres that bit about how espers lose their common sense(the normal people common sense) when their powers are active

or does realizing their actions are evil once their common sense is back count as doing evil for you?
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:21 pm

Think of it this way. An animal can never be evil because it had no sense of right and wrong. It's pure instinct.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:29 pm

no, that's because evil is a concept, a theory, a human construct that has no actual power on reality.
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It's a human concept because only humans have the awareness necessary to commit evil.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:44 pm

i get it but...

i think its a view difference between you and jorg, You find evil to be Black on the "Black and white scale of morality"

while on Jorg`s "Black and white scale of morality" owning a "Blue and Orange scale of morality" is also evil(i think i also subscribe to this theory but with a few small changes)

what i was trying to point out was that characters in the nasuverse often have a "Switch" changing them from "Black and White" to "Blue and Orange" 

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo   Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 Clock11Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:52 pm

Evil (and good) is an opinion, nothing more.
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wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
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a morality that doesnt abide the "standard"

or differently put, a morality that is incomparable different from your own.


or you can get rid of the colors and call them "Morality type 1" and "morality type 2"
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jorgiguel wrote:
wtf is  Blue and Orange scale ?

"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"

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Gedomaru wrote:
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wtf is  Blue and Orange scale ?

"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"


so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong?
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Who knows. The point is, blue and orange morality is highly nonconventional. Usually, it seems to pertain to otherworldly species in fiction, but occasionally to very abnormal humans.

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or just inteligent humans :V
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You don't even know what it means. Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo - Page 36 2332200876

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality

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jorgiguel wrote:
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wtf is  Blue and Orange scale ?

"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"


so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong?

Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians.
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That's actually a pretty good real life example.

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Gedomaru wrote:
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Gedomaru wrote:
jorgiguel wrote:
wtf is  Blue and Orange scale ?

"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"


so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong?

Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians.

isnt that because their smart?

how can humans say they own earth when they can't even control it :V
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jorgiguel wrote:
Gedomaru wrote:
jorgiguel wrote:
Gedomaru wrote:
jorgiguel wrote:
wtf is  Blue and Orange scale ?

"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"


so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong?

Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians.

isnt that because their smart?

how can humans say they own earth when they can't even control it :V
exactly, so if you try to  "so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life," they`d reply with their own opinion than fall for your own.
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It has nothing to do with intelligence.

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well, technacly it has since you need intelligence to formulate thought process :V
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Okay, but the point is that it's a matter of perspective.

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are you really saying that perspective is not influenced by the level of intelligence?
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jorg stop trolling

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