| Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:07 pm | |
| Huh? _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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madarrao Amateur Author
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:19 pm | |
| im probably just a bit ahead of myself, but Nasuverse espers find using their powers to be normal.
also in KnK theres that bit about how espers lose their common sense(the normal people common sense) when their powers are active
or does realizing their actions are evil once their common sense is back count as doing evil for you? | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:21 pm | |
| Think of it this way. An animal can never be evil because it had no sense of right and wrong. It's pure instinct. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:29 pm | |
| no, that's because evil is a concept, a theory, a human construct that has no actual power on reality. |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:34 pm | |
| It's a human concept because only humans have the awareness necessary to commit evil. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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madarrao Amateur Author
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:44 pm | |
| i get it but... i think its a view difference between you and jorg, You find evil to be Black on the "Black and white scale of morality" while on Jorg`s "Black and white scale of morality" owning a "Blue and Orange scale of morality" is also evil(i think i also subscribe to this theory but with a few small changes) what i was trying to point out was that characters in the nasuverse often have a "Switch" changing them from "Black and White" to "Blue and Orange" - examples:
Ryougi`s "Black and white scale"(or whatever colors you think fits her) finds killing humans to be evil, but finds killing humans with a "Blue and Orange" scale to be ok and labers such humans as monsters
The gimmick with Fujino was that she kept on switching at random between the scales; "Black and white"(no pain,no powers) and "Blue and Orange"(with pain,with powers) thats why Shiki kept on postponing killing her
Also mages all have a "Switch" although the characters say its more like they must make their own "switch" or they wont manage to live as mages
Rin basically didnt make her "Switch" yet
While Touko`s "Switch" seems to be taking of her glasses
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:52 pm | |
| Evil (and good) is an opinion, nothing more. |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:54 pm | |
| wtf is Blue and Orange scale ? |
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madarrao Amateur Author
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:59 pm | |
| a morality that doesnt abide the "standard"
or differently put, a morality that is incomparable different from your own.
or you can get rid of the colors and call them "Morality type 1" and "morality type 2" | |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:01 pm | |
| - jorgiguel wrote:
- wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!" |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:08 pm | |
| - Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"
so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong? |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:12 pm | |
| Who knows. The point is, blue and orange morality is highly nonconventional. Usually, it seems to pertain to otherworldly species in fiction, but occasionally to very abnormal humans. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:15 pm | |
| or just inteligent humans :V |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:17 pm | |
| You don't even know what it means. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:18 pm | |
| http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:28 pm | |
| - jorgiguel wrote:
- Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"
so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong? Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians. |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:42 pm | |
| That's actually a pretty good real life example. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:48 pm | |
| - Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"
so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong? Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians. isnt that because their smart? how can humans say they own earth when they can't even control it :V |
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madarrao Amateur Author
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:56 pm | |
| - jorgiguel wrote:
- Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- Gedomaru wrote:
- jorgiguel wrote:
- wtf is Blue and Orange scale ?
"Stealing is wrong, but killing is ok!"
so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life, would stealing become ok or killing wrong? Neither. It'd be like trying to introduce the concept of owning lands to indians. isnt that because their smart?
how can humans say they own earth when they can't even control it :V exactly, so if you try to "so if i convince such person that killing someone is stealling that person's life," they`d reply with their own opinion than fall for your own. | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:57 pm | |
| It has nothing to do with intelligence. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:47 pm | |
| well, technacly it has since you need intelligence to formulate thought process :V |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:57 pm | |
| Okay, but the point is that it's a matter of perspective. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:03 pm | |
| are you really saying that perspective is not influenced by the level of intelligence? |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:03 pm | |
| jorg stop trolling
*Sprays you with water* |
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| Subject: Re: Chat Thread 13: The Thirteen Ghostys of Scooby Doo Thu Jan 01, 2015 7:09 pm | |
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