The Grail Games OOC III

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Saber was going to, actually, in the bad end where Shirou gives up his Command Spells. But she decides not to and goes off, leaving Shirou to get axed by Berserker.

Yeah, I know that, but they want to win the war, and a Master who can't supply mana or do anything to help them is useless. So it's easier to get rid of them before going to find another.

how is getting rid of them any easier than just leaving them?

Saber was in a position where Shirou betrayed her thrust right from the get go. She joined a war partner with someone who runs away from the get go, of course she felt tempted to kill him, Saber is no angel. Yet she still didn't, showing that Servant will not kill their Master even if they barely know him.

however, we are talking about a long partnership that ends because command seals were used, either for emergencies or strategies that didn't involve the Servant doing anything they hated. I fail to see why a Servant would kill someone who they know didn't betray them and they have no problems with, suddenly kill them cause certain events were inevitable.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Saber was going to, actually, in the bad end where Shirou gives up his Command Spells. But she decides not to and goes off, leaving Shirou to get axed by Berserker.

Yeah, I know that, but they want to win the war, and a Master who can't supply mana or do anything to help them is useless. So it's easier to get rid of them before going to find another.

Well Meira can totally still supply him with mana and totally isn't helpless.

Cause sometimes partnerships are not formed through trust or like. Take FSN Caster, for example. Or Gil and Tokiomi.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Cause sometimes partnerships are not formed through trust or like. Take FSN Caster, for example. Or Gil and Tokiomi.

so what you're saying is that Servants are either evil witch of betrayal or assholes?

jorgiguel wrote:

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Cause sometimes partnerships are not formed through trust or like. Take FSN Caster, for example. Or Gil and Tokiomi.

so what you're saying is that Servants are either evil witch of betrayal or assholes?

To be fair most female servants are evil witches and the corrupt grail tends to summon a lot of assholes.

If Star Ocean 3 wasn't one of the most egregious examples of level grinding in gaming history, I would love to replay it.

No, they're heroes, who in general don't like to be controlled. And sometimes, it can just be that their Master is a nuisance.

Gedomaru wrote:

jorgiguel wrote:

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Cause sometimes partnerships are not formed through trust or like. Take FSN Caster, for example. Or Gil and Tokiomi.

so what you're saying is that Servants are either evil witch of betrayal or assholes?

To be fair most female servants are evil witches and the corrupt grail tends to summon a lot of assholes.

my point was that Illya was using exceptions as examples and not normal Heroic Spirits like Saber, Zero Lancer, Zero Rider, FSN Lancer, etc...

Prisma*Illya wrote:

If Star Ocean 3 wasn't one of the most egregious examples of level grinding in gaming history, I would love to replay it.

No, they're heroes, who in general don't like to be controlled. And sometimes, it can just be that their Master is a nuisance.

Lol, I actually started replaying it. But dear lord... ugh.

Meira hasn't issued an unwanted order yet.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

If Star Ocean 3 wasn't one of the most egregious examples of level grinding in gaming history, I would love to replay it.

No, they're heroes, who in general don't like to be controlled. And sometimes, it can just be that their Master is a nuisance.

heroes? Caster was a vengeful spirit and Gilgamesh is just Gilgamesh.

Lol, what's the problem?

I was saying Servants in general are heroes not accustomed to being dominated.

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Hi, Florence. :0

I have some activities for Team Saber tomorrow, btw.

Tomorrow tomorrow or IC tomorrow?

Also good because I am bored.

Tomorrow IC lol. I couldn't think of anything for them to do tonight. But you can always talk to Dowth if you're bored.

Oh right it's Friday, I forgot.

We still gonna watch IT?

Can't. But next weekend, we're supposed to get our new internet.

Alrighty then.

I'll probably be like a dog wetting itself from excitement lol. The prospect of normal internet is too beautiful.

Also, I should let you guys now I probably won't be around most of the day tomorrow. I have an eye exam, then I have to be a judge at my old K-12 school's science fair, and then I have to go to a friend's graduation party.

We can watch Hentai all day every day, from everything to ALL THAT WILL BE

There's an idea.

Also, hey, the "Trickster" made his first appearance. :0

We can Goosh Goosh all day pffft


Cool

Well, I should be getting to bed. I'll pop in tomorrow if I have time between any of the aforementioned events. Night. :0

Goodnight and good luck

Prisma*Illya wrote:

Lol, what's the problem?

I was saying Servants in general are heroes not accustomed to being dominated.

let's put it this way

If Shirou were to end the contract with Saber after sometime of partnership, would she kill him? no, even after being taken by Caster and having Rin as a Master, Saber still cared more about Shirou than Rin.

would Iskander kill Waver if Waver ended their contract after sometime of partnership? no, Iskander is a natural bro.

would Zero Lancer do it?, no, his loyalty is ridiculous

would Night Lancer do it? no, his loyalty is as big as a dog's


you see these are typical Heroic Spirits, good guys, people that sacrificed themselves for others.

people like Caster and Gilgamesh as exceptions to the rule of the typical Heroic Spirit. And considering Kotomine's only example of a Servant was Gilgamesh, it's only natural for him to say that the servant would kill the ex-master.

Fair enough. But that's not necessarily the case for all Servants.

In this war, I think the only Servants that would willing stay with their Masters without a link are Lancer and Archer. Obviously Caster already did kill her Master, and Assassin is not a nice guy. Saber and Berserker (should) be indifferent to their Masters, and Rider actively dislikes his Master.