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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:52 pm

but his magecraft is clearly the best one for killing other magus, in fact he's very concept is that an anti-magus, by the definition you presented, Kiritsugu is the best magus.


i see, so your looking at circuits as if their actual circuits, well, I suppose there's nothing to add then
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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:55 pm

No, his magecraft is just to slow down or speed up time, which harms his own body. Not exactly efficient. Since you're going to be a smartass, I'll revise my definition. "The best magus is the one who can most easily kill another magus through the use of magecraft only." I didn't think it necessary to even add that since Kiritsugu is the only magus ever shown to utilize such underhanded methods.

They're clearly shown in the VN as actual circuits.

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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:02 pm

*sigh*

the best magus is the one who is closest to reaching the root, just in case you forgot.


as for the VN showing, that was Shirou's imagination to help him concentrate
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Not necessarily. That's their goal, clearly, but we're talking about combat ability.

Maybe, although that's not stated.

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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:05 pm

Shirou makes new circuits every time he casts a spell

So yes, it's likely one circuit can't perform multiple spells
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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:18 pm

combat wise there are to many variables to state which one is best.

let me explain you how illya works

Illya is mostly fire power, she has huge mana capacities, and while alchemy is her family magecraft, that doesnt mean that's her only magecraft, as she is quite close to Heaven's Feel(actually doing it in HF, thats above anything magecraft can do btw). So she's kinda like Saber's Excalibur, just a destructive force, it's not combat oriantated, because 1v1 it's hard to use, but given the situations specially if people underestimate you, it really can just flip the table.

Rin on the other hand is more tactics reliant, her magecraft has decent enough fire power, but ultematly it's mostly situational as it's effects can be used in varius situations. In that regard she's more like Archer, has decent enough fire power, but in the end beats others through sheer inteligence and good use of resources.

The biggest differance betweent the two is that Illya's fire power can simply be used on the fly and will not change whether or not she's underestimating her opponent. Rin on the other uses tactics which relly on guessing you're opponent's movements and countering them, which means that if at any moment the opponent uses more power than what was expected, the plan loses all effect.

essentially what happened.

Basicly, Rin thought Illya was a weak little child and got a good slap in the face for underestimating an opponent.
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Mhmm. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 2332200876

Well anyway, they've surprisingly actually made me like Ayako even more in the anime.

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i know right, goddamit ufo, stop making me like the side characters more than the main characters, though Rin is pretty moe
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As I've always said

Bowgirl best girl
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I want an Ayako route. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 4134108735

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i want....huuuuuuuh
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I want an Ayako route. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 4134108735

Ayako gets MEoDP
Teams up with Shirou to get rid of all participating in the war and disturbing their peaceful town.
Saber has a dark side and goes along with it only to grab the grail in the end.
Queue guilt threesome.
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MEoDP arrow attack. Awesome. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 2733086858

Also, Samandriel/Alfie from Supernatural is in the Grumpy Cat movie. :0

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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:20 pm

Gedomaru wrote:
Prisma*Illya wrote:
I want an Ayako route. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 4134108735

Ayako gets MEoDP
Teams up with Shirou to get rid of all participating in the war and disturbing their peaceful town.
Saber has a dark side and goes along with it only to grab the grail in the end.
Queue guilt threesome.

**** saber, Rider is best waifu
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Before or after getting her head twisted off? The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 4276320252

UBW Rider is painfully underwhelming. I like her a lot in HF though. She's pretty cool in Fate too.

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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:44 am

eyugh god that set is ugly as sin on dark skin
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PostSubject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV   The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 Clock11Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:24 am

We only have one skin...

Hey, are you talking about my set? >:/ It's very well done.

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True but it doesn't contrast with the dark. The border should be black or something

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Black doesn't really go with the color scheme though.

Your sig is white. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 2332200876

I should make Caster and Assassin sets. :0

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whatever wo-mang
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So... have you started Supernatural season 9 yet?

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I'm trying to.

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Trying? Lol.

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It's very... difficult
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Nonsense. The Grail Games OOC XIV - Page 20 4134108735

Well, I should be getting to bed. Night. :0

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