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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:52 pm | |
| but his magecraft is clearly the best one for killing other magus, in fact he's very concept is that an anti-magus, by the definition you presented, Kiritsugu is the best magus.
i see, so your looking at circuits as if their actual circuits, well, I suppose there's nothing to add then |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:55 pm | |
| No, his magecraft is just to slow down or speed up time, which harms his own body. Not exactly efficient. Since you're going to be a smartass, I'll revise my definition. "The best magus is the one who can most easily kill another magus through the use of magecraft only." I didn't think it necessary to even add that since Kiritsugu is the only magus ever shown to utilize such underhanded methods.
They're clearly shown in the VN as actual circuits. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:02 pm | |
| *sigh*
the best magus is the one who is closest to reaching the root, just in case you forgot.
as for the VN showing, that was Shirou's imagination to help him concentrate |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:03 pm | |
| Not necessarily. That's their goal, clearly, but we're talking about combat ability.
Maybe, although that's not stated. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:05 pm | |
| Shirou makes new circuits every time he casts a spell
So yes, it's likely one circuit can't perform multiple spells |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:18 pm | |
| combat wise there are to many variables to state which one is best.
let me explain you how illya works
Illya is mostly fire power, she has huge mana capacities, and while alchemy is her family magecraft, that doesnt mean that's her only magecraft, as she is quite close to Heaven's Feel(actually doing it in HF, thats above anything magecraft can do btw). So she's kinda like Saber's Excalibur, just a destructive force, it's not combat oriantated, because 1v1 it's hard to use, but given the situations specially if people underestimate you, it really can just flip the table.
Rin on the other hand is more tactics reliant, her magecraft has decent enough fire power, but ultematly it's mostly situational as it's effects can be used in varius situations. In that regard she's more like Archer, has decent enough fire power, but in the end beats others through sheer inteligence and good use of resources.
The biggest differance betweent the two is that Illya's fire power can simply be used on the fly and will not change whether or not she's underestimating her opponent. Rin on the other uses tactics which relly on guessing you're opponent's movements and countering them, which means that if at any moment the opponent uses more power than what was expected, the plan loses all effect.
essentially what happened.
Basicly, Rin thought Illya was a weak little child and got a good slap in the face for underestimating an opponent. |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:19 pm | |
| Mhmm. Well anyway, they've surprisingly actually made me like Ayako even more in the anime. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:26 pm | |
| i know right, goddamit ufo, stop making me like the side characters more than the main characters, though Rin is pretty moe |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:32 pm | |
| As I've always said
Bowgirl best girl |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:58 pm | |
| I want an Ayako route. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:01 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:03 pm | |
| - Prisma*Illya wrote:
- I want an Ayako route.
Ayako gets MEoDP Teams up with Shirou to get rid of all participating in the war and disturbing their peaceful town. Saber has a dark side and goes along with it only to grab the grail in the end. Queue guilt threesome. |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:10 pm | |
| MEoDP arrow attack. Awesome. Also, Samandriel/Alfie from Supernatural is in the Grumpy Cat movie. :0 _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:20 pm | |
| - Gedomaru wrote:
- Prisma*Illya wrote:
- I want an Ayako route.
Ayako gets MEoDP Teams up with Shirou to get rid of all participating in the war and disturbing their peaceful town. Saber has a dark side and goes along with it only to grab the grail in the end. Queue guilt threesome. **** saber, Rider is best waifu |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:28 pm | |
| Before or after getting her head twisted off? UBW Rider is painfully underwhelming. I like her a lot in HF though. She's pretty cool in Fate too. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:44 am | |
| eyugh god that set is ugly as sin on dark skin |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:24 am | |
| We only have one skin...
Hey, are you talking about my set? >:/ It's very well done. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:37 am | |
| True but it doesn't contrast with the dark. The border should be black or something
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:47 am | |
| Black doesn't really go with the color scheme though. Your sig is white. I should make Caster and Assassin sets. :0 _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:02 am | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:22 am | |
| So... have you started Supernatural season 9 yet? _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:26 am | |
| I'm trying to. |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:32 am | |
| Trying? Lol. _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:37 am | |
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Prisma*Illya Paramount Pagemaster
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| Subject: Re: The Grail Games OOC XIV Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:06 am | |
| Nonsense. Well, I should be getting to bed. Night. :0 _________________ ~Vae Victis - The Black Lily Blooms~ | |
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