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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:39 pm

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I dunno. I don't think I was following or working against any trends when I wrote my book. I just did what I liked.

is it funny that I had predicted this phrase from you. Albeit I predicted "I don't follow trends!", so good on you for not dismissing the possibility.

the reality is that following trends isn't a conscience act for the most part. You don't just one day wake up and go "I'm going to write story about this trend!" that just doesn't happen. At most what can happen is "what trend is most popular right now for me to make a quick buck" which typicaly only happens in the movies/games/tv media.

the way it works is that when making stories, your creativity taps into memories and information and organizes it, this means that newer memories and information get prioritized since they are fresher to the mind. And what's fresh to the mind? your daily life of course. thus people use trends without even realizing.

I can point out two trends from what i remember reading from your books. You will likely say that they arent trends, because they are just character traits, but the truth is that a lot of stories in this time have been following this trend.

"main character pissed with the world" and "lets put people of every color in my story for diversity"


not that it's a bad thing. Again it's all subconscience stuff.

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the butterfly effect is the butterfly effect because you cannot foresee the consequences of actions. your desire for Tsuki-Re is making you ignore the fact that they are most likely streamlining the story, setting the route order in stone, not repeating the same info 3 times in 3 because theres the risk that the player might not have read it and such



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unfortunatly mad, that's how media works. Trends. That's why even in literature there's the "Logic era", the "Romanticism era", the "Victorian era". Etc... Stories either follow the trend of the time or go against it. It's rare to find stories that just do their thing.



illya`s the one that hates typemoon`s latest project, i just said i dont enjoy it as much as the old ones. still better than most, but not by as much.not being pleased that F/A`s writer`s caliber or self-confidence is to small to break away from stereotypes is secondary

i'm not trying to calm you. I actually didn't know what was the problem with F/A(aside from the dragon thing)

Actually, the main character is based off my own struggle in college with not being able to make friends. And as far as diversity, I never make an effort to do so. If I come up with them as a minority, then great. If I don't, oh well. I did make a point of asking if the ethnicities was evident, but I'm completely against diversifying to fulfill a quota.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:50 pm

yes, illya, its based on your struggle to make friends, but is your struggle a trend in modern society?

and consider yourself warned, Nasu is rewriting Tsukihime,so the translation is gonna take forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:52 pm

i said it's not a consciente decision. you didn't just decide it to do it that way for trending reasons. you did it because you belong to a generation that had problems with college, thus you just like everybody else from that time use it for their advantage. and the ethnicities comes from you living in america. america is a soup of cultures, more so than ever and the media is constantly talking about "this minority, that minority" and that rubs off.
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:56 pm

Well, me not being able to make friends is partly not fitting any of the expectations of people my age, having very high standards, and having a few too many social anxities.

Really? News to me, cause everyone I knew seemed to love college.

Yes, it's true that I have read quite a bit of writing on diversity. I won't say it doesn't have any influence. It's just not the deciding factor.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:18 pm

Where did everyone go?

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:22 pm

still here for another 15 minutes... why?
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:23 pm

I dunno. You stopped talking?

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:25 pm

i was writing a post in another forum and forgot about this one...

so did you start your Lotr game?
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:28 pm

>.>

Yes. I made it through Eregion, Western Moria, Eastern Moria, East Emnet Gullies, and Rohan. I'm now at Helm's Deep. After that is Osgiliath, Minas Tirith, and Pelenor Fields.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:34 pm

Eregion,East Emnet Gullies,Osgiliath,and Pelenor Fields.


never heard of those regions...

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:02 pm

I can understand the first two, but the second two were directly referenced in the movies. Especially Osgiliath. It's the ruined city Faramir defended. Pelenor Fields lie between it and Osgiliath. It's where the big battle in Return of the King happens.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sat Feb 27, 2016 3:22 pm

Anyone want to tell me what they think of my newest query letter?

Spoiler:
 

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:12 pm

Was there always "Revelation" in the title
and it reads fine to me :]
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:13 pm

Yep. The Mortal Coil is the series name.

Revelation is Book 1.
Salvation is Book 2
Tribulation is Book 3
Creation is Book 4.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:29 pm

ah like the 
Divergent Series
https://www.bookdepository.com/Divergent-Series-Box-Set-Books-1-4-Plus-World-Divergent-Veronica-Roth/9780007588503

Well, the Fourth book named "Four" is basically a different perspective from another character. Plus some things not focused in the main series was further divulged into.

You could also have something like that. (explaining the world in depth. Things that you may have needed to skip to keep the main story short/simple)
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:37 pm

No. All four are part of one story. I hate gimmicky things like writing the same book from a different perspective. >.>

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:12 am

Well you could do an ( end-end credit way done in movies ) as an opener for any future series or fan fiction.
You'll be opening your world for everyone to take it in any place.

The "credits" can show a new villain coming out of thethe woodwork, rubble, or the aftermath. Or you could show something small being changed, that can have lasting effects (later down the road) etc.

So if you ever want to return to your world, maybe descendants of your characters or those who knew them or were affected by their involvement in the world's saving; you'll always have a way to get back into the world for a new adventure.
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:04 am

So, I had Turkey(I think it was grilled) with Plain rice, for lunch.
... tasted like dry chicken :|

I think I've had Duck before too and the turkey felt similar. Chicken still has a slight different taste to it, for me.

I've also had quail but in a soup form, I'll try eating it grilled, boiled or steamed, some time and see if all birds taste the same XD
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:53 am

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Well you could do an ( end-end credit way done in movies ) as an opener for any future series or fan fiction.
You'll be opening your world for everyone to take it in any place.

The "credits" can show a new villain coming out of thethe woodwork, rubble, or the aftermath. Or you could show something small being changed, that can have lasting effects (later down the road) etc.

So if you ever want to return to your world, maybe descendants of your  characters or those who knew them or  were affected by their involvement in the world's saving; you'll always have a way to get back into the world for a new adventure.

Oh, I do have ideas for spin-offs. I mean, this is sort of a "Supernatural-esque" world where it's the real world but there's angels, demons, witches, and magic that most people don't know about. Some of the spin-off ideas I had are how the protagonist's parents met and how two of the other main characters met. And there's plenty of possibilities for the characters after the book ends, but nothing concrete on that front.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sun Feb 28, 2016 2:13 pm

yeah, that's good too :-D
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:12 pm

Well, I got a response already. That was a fast turn-around.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:52 am

So when can we start badgering you for your autograph and then sell it and then get more from you and sell those too. Oh don't worry we'll donatedonate some of the money to a charity of your choice, because you know, once someone gets famous, they have to start openly doing those kinds of public events or activities
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:14 am

Judging by my lack of enthusiasm, I thought you could tell what sort of response it was.

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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:40 pm

A mysterious one
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PostSubject: Re: Chat Thread 22: The Chat Awakens   Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:44 pm



Well, it's fine. If they're going to shoot me down, I'd prefer it get done quickly so I can move on.

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