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PostSubject: Re: Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC   Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC - Page 12 Clock11Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:10 pm

Basically the Pointman is in charge of stalking.

I realize Arais could probably do Pointman too.
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Well forger also has to copy other personalities

So you have to look into the interaction, the tone and etc
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What Nex said. The profiles will go on the front page.

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Nexius wrote:
Well forger also has to copy other personalities

So you have to look into the interaction, the tone and etc

good thing Arais has a photographic memory.
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PostSubject: Re: Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC   Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC - Page 12 Clock11Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:16 pm

Point man and forger should work together closely, i feel....

One provides and one applies
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Nexius wrote:
Point man and forger should work together closely, i feel....

One provides and one applies

The Stalker and the Actor. Honestly though Arais could probably do Pointman too if need be.
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only an Extractor, and Architect, and a Point-man are actually required for a job.
anyone else is only called in if needed.
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@Spirit: Well it would be too many tasks for one person to do it; if you miss any single detail of that person you need to act, your forger won't be able to form proper sync with the character that he/she has to act and subject would realize it is a dream and the dream world will start crumbling
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Nexius wrote:
@Spirit: Well it would be too many tasks for one person to do it; if you miss any single detail of that person you need to act, your forger won't be able to form proper sync with the character that he/she has to act and subject would realize it is a dream and the dream world will start crumbling

I didn't mean at the same time, lol.
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okay only 2 things left.
 Need To make the character appearance 
And can someone explain the Totems?
 like what are they Supposed to relate to in
1) Real world
2) your Dream
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Totems are an object that behaves or appears one way while in a dream space and another way in reality.
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Yes but how to confirm if you are dreaming your own dream or have fallen in Someone elses?

 The only thing I get is that in reality and your dream the totem needs to be the same but diff in others

so for the spinning top, the top in the real world and your dream needs to be continuously spinning but if it topples then it is someone else dream right?

ao basically when you ream you use something which acts te same in he real world. Did I get that right?
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No, if it topples, its not a dream.
For instance, in the movie, First Dream was The chemists, Second Dream was Point man, third one was the subject's and the fourth one was Extractor

And we could see that the person who was the owner of the dream did not sleep while others move into someone's else dream.



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the idea isn't to figure out whose dream you're in.
it's just to know if you're in the dream or awake.
so, the way the totem behaves doesn't need to change between dreamers, only between the dream state and reality.
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In other words, before the crew enters the dream sharing, the actual work, they plan it out whose dream they will move into first, second and third or etc.
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The roles are not that interchangeable. A Pointman just doesn't do research. He's a research expert with skills and vast information networks. Ifssomeone has that and phenomenal acting ability, you're bordering on Mary Sue territory.

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What Illya said, Spirit Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC - Page 12 3680231627

Inception - Hypnos Gambit OOC - Page 12 4134108735 So Illya when will you be uploading the profiles of the client and the subject/mark/whatever you want to call?
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I would suspect that a person could play all roles in some way or another, but in doing so, that person would inhibit the growth of their skills.

For example, John is both a Point-man and a Forger, but that's a benefit of his psychological profiling and his time with the FBI. Obviously, his skills as a Point-man are going to be better developed than his skills as a Forger though.

In the movie, Cobb is the Extractor, but apparently, at one point, he was an Architect, and a very good one at that.

So, I would guess that it's possible for a person to have multiple skillsets, but the more they delve into each, the less impressive they are in the others.
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Prisma*Illya wrote:
The roles are not that interchangeable. A Pointman just doesn't do research. He's a research expert with skills and vast information networks. Ifssomeone has that and phenomenal acting ability, you're bordering on Mary Sue territory.

A network? Yea, no.
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Well, yes, technically you can serve multiple roles. But that's an exception, rather than the rule.

I'll get them up at home.

And yes, the explanation on totems was accurate.

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Cobb was.....well, his 'Mr.Charles' was amazing but he didn't look too impressive when he was dealing with Japanese guy lol

I mean it supports what Payne said to certain degree
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Cobb was an Architect by nature. He learned Extraction when he could no longer build

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